1 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,600 I always looked at him as just being like this rich Harlem cat who just want 2 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,680 dance and make money. 3 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:57,500 No violence in him. 4 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,740 But every time I turn around, there's violence. 5 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,820 There's violence with his name on it. 6 00:01:07,860 --> 00:01:10,640 At the time, 7 00:01:11,340 --> 00:01:14,640 There's a tension that is going on between Pac and Puff. 8 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Puff wanted to work with Pac on a lot of levels business -wise, and Pac wasn't 9 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,460 having it. He was more interested in bigging his career. 10 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Puff was very threatened by Pac. 11 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,740 He was very threatened, especially if you were an executive who wanted the guy 12 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:38,080 to make you money, and the guy was saying, no, fuck you. 13 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:46,830 Around that time, Tupac was going to do a song with Lil Sean at Quiet Studio. 14 00:01:48,830 --> 00:01:51,970 Out of the blue, they wanted me to do the song, so I said, all right, stopped 15 00:01:51,970 --> 00:01:54,410 off to get some weed, smoked a weed. 16 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:58,410 Then I was getting a page, where you at, where you at, where you at, why you 17 00:01:58,410 --> 00:01:59,068 ain't coming? 18 00:01:59,070 --> 00:02:00,870 I was like, I'm coming, I'm on my way, hold on. 19 00:02:01,270 --> 00:02:04,010 I wasn't thinking, why they want me here so bad? 20 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:08,229 We walking up to the building, somebody screamed from the upper top of the 21 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:09,389 studio, and it's Lil Caesar. 22 00:02:09,850 --> 00:02:13,290 He's like Biggie's side man, right? And we was in the recording with Big and 23 00:02:13,290 --> 00:02:14,730 Puff, and I'm yelling like, yo, Pop! 24 00:02:15,010 --> 00:02:17,690 And he looked up, yo, what's up, little nigga? 25 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:21,170 I go back in the room, I tell Big, I'm like, yo, Big, Pop's downstairs. 26 00:02:21,530 --> 00:02:22,930 He was like, oh, all right, go get him. 27 00:02:23,410 --> 00:02:27,370 Get into the elevator, and when I was about to walk out, two dudes came from 28 00:02:27,370 --> 00:02:28,710 both sides. Get the fuck back in the elevator. 29 00:02:32,030 --> 00:02:35,870 Recording artist Tupac Shakur was shot five times last night in a robbery 30 00:02:35,870 --> 00:02:38,910 attempt. After surgery, his condition was upgraded to satisfactory. 31 00:02:39,790 --> 00:02:42,490 And he's checked out of the hospital against his doctor's advice. 32 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:44,630 I think they're trying to rub me out, really. 33 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:50,170 Robbers don't leave behind $80 ,000 Rolexes. You know what I mean? They 34 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:51,650 that. In case nobody knows. 35 00:02:52,250 --> 00:02:53,530 Let's look at the facts. 36 00:02:55,590 --> 00:02:56,630 Puff is there. 37 00:02:57,410 --> 00:03:00,710 Pop has been shot in New York under your watch. 38 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:03,930 Question would be, who knew that he was pulling up? 39 00:03:04,210 --> 00:03:08,310 Biggie, knowing myself, had nothing to do whatsoever of. 40 00:03:09,539 --> 00:03:14,440 Tupac being robbed, that's just a fact. 41 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,420 After everything that has unfolded, I have to think twice about how that 42 00:03:19,420 --> 00:03:20,740 situation went down. 43 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,260 Do you think Puffy was involved? 44 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,080 I believe so. I do believe so. I have proof. 45 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:31,560 You can see now why someone like a Puff would want someone like a Pop out the 46 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,560 picture. 47 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,420 You know, Pop was vilified while he was alive. 48 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:39,710 And Puff was exhausted. 49 00:03:40,690 --> 00:03:41,990 That's the bigger picture. 50 00:03:43,010 --> 00:03:44,990 And that's the story that hasn't been told. 51 00:04:28,910 --> 00:04:33,990 Like two months ago, right? 52 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:51,920 Puff is in this position where he has all this turmoil, but he's not at the 53 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,520 point where he's saying, well, I went wrong. 54 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,380 He's saying to himself, how do I get out of this? 55 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:03,720 Maybe I can convince some witnesses that I'm not the guy who I am. 56 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:08,660 Eventually, he's going to get to the point where he's going to ask himself, 57 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:10,900 did I get myself into this situation? 58 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:27,340 95, he had two of the hottest acts. Craig, that game was Flavor In Your Ear. 59 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:33,320 And Biggie. 60 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Wow. 61 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,840 Bad Boy was rising up. My little lab right here, you know, where I cut my 62 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:47,260 and all that. Got my little headset. Living out a dream, you know what I'm 63 00:05:47,260 --> 00:05:50,570 saying? One time, Sean was in his office, and I'm in a little... cubbyhole 64 00:05:50,570 --> 00:05:51,570 around the corner. 65 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:52,810 It buzzes me. 66 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:59,790 So I get up and I go in with my papers and go. A girl is giving him a blowjob 67 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:00,790 the desk. 68 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:04,330 He wanted me to see that. He wanted me to see her face. 69 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:07,810 And then he was able to get her to do that right then and there in the office. 70 00:06:09,090 --> 00:06:10,090 She leaves. 71 00:06:10,290 --> 00:06:11,710 What did you want me for? 72 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:13,670 I didn't want you for anything. 73 00:06:15,550 --> 00:06:17,970 That was the beginning for me to see. 74 00:06:18,570 --> 00:06:20,050 This is what's going on here. 75 00:06:22,170 --> 00:06:27,950 So the seize for all of this was early on. 76 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:37,290 And that came from people in the industry co -signing his activity 77 00:06:37,290 --> 00:06:40,670 because it brought money in. 78 00:06:49,719 --> 00:06:53,640 That whole bad boy thing was so big. 79 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Faith Evans. 80 00:06:57,020 --> 00:06:58,020 Total. 81 00:07:00,140 --> 00:07:01,140 Biggie. 82 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:09,360 Greg Mack. It was a consistent back to 83 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,220 back to back to back. 84 00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:16,320 So let me just give you a day in the life of Puff Daddy. 85 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Gets up. 86 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:20,090 From wherever he stayed that night. 87 00:07:22,050 --> 00:07:23,790 Heads to the office two hours late. 88 00:07:24,310 --> 00:07:27,230 You might have somebody pulling him over, saying, hey, ain't you in that 89 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:28,089 Ain't that you? 90 00:07:28,090 --> 00:07:29,210 Oh, yo, here go a demo. 91 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:34,050 Yo, oh, what's up, pup? How you doing, baby, bruh? Just order that piece. Had 92 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:36,930 the big baseball bat cell phones. And the phone might ring. 93 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:39,430 Such and such is on the phone calling from jail. 94 00:07:39,870 --> 00:07:40,870 Yo, I'm coming home. 95 00:07:41,450 --> 00:07:44,070 You might have a group standing in front of the office. 96 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Already with the microphone, ready to sing, you love me, I love, just to get 97 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,360 their shot at Puffy. 98 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:55,240 Everybody wants to see him. He is now the new gateway into music. 99 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,280 You're going to take all of this power and money you're getting now and play by 100 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,899 the rules? 101 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:07,580 No, I'm the rule now. I am the exception to the rule. 102 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,620 One day, it seemed like out of the blue, my door opens up. 103 00:08:21,780 --> 00:08:23,040 Sean walks in. 104 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:29,740 He had a baseball bat and a big attaché suitcase with the snaps on it. 105 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,880 The stocks were there. 106 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:37,620 He wanted me to sign my 25 % offer. 107 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:42,120 And then he's over me like this. He wants to stop that. 108 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,400 He wants it now. 109 00:08:45,050 --> 00:08:48,230 I'm not going to stay fucking lying down. I'm not. I can't do that, man. 110 00:08:48,650 --> 00:08:52,330 He said, there's a business deal I need to take care of. I need to do this. I 111 00:08:52,330 --> 00:08:54,790 need to get this all on one side, but I'll give it back to you. 112 00:08:55,450 --> 00:08:56,810 I'm going to give it back to you. 113 00:08:57,350 --> 00:09:03,910 And he threatened until I did. 114 00:09:06,650 --> 00:09:10,830 People always say to me, why would you do that? 115 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:15,460 Why did you do that? Like, that was, you know... 116 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:22,400 I didn't want to give it back. I wanted to stay 117 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,460 in good graces. I still wanted to be at the company. 118 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:27,340 It wasn't like he was firing me. 119 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,760 But I was definitely confused by it. 120 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:38,280 It might sound strange, but if you've ever built something and you wanted to 121 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,280 laugh... 122 00:09:40,010 --> 00:09:42,110 You think about how to make it last. 123 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:54,310 I want to know who's been naughty at night. 124 00:09:54,510 --> 00:10:00,090 I thought he was kind of cool at first, and then 125 00:10:00,090 --> 00:10:02,830 we started seeing some things. 126 00:10:04,290 --> 00:10:09,570 Craig started becoming disenchanting. I want to congratulate Craig Mack. 127 00:10:09,930 --> 00:10:13,350 on his Grammy nomination. Yes, baby. Cool. That's cool. 128 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:16,350 Yo, you got nominated for a Grammy. 129 00:10:16,610 --> 00:10:18,170 But we had no money. 130 00:10:18,750 --> 00:10:25,370 If you look at Bad Boy, Bad Boy didn't sell enough records to explain his 131 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:26,370 wealth. 132 00:10:26,510 --> 00:10:32,450 But enough artists were on the label that sold enough records to explain his 133 00:10:32,450 --> 00:10:33,450 wealth. 134 00:10:34,330 --> 00:10:38,370 So my trick was, I'm going to make you a star. Your sign, follow the money. 135 00:10:38,830 --> 00:10:41,150 That's what you're going to try to do as hard as you can. 136 00:10:41,470 --> 00:10:42,650 You're going to try your best. 137 00:10:42,930 --> 00:10:44,470 And we know you're going to try your best. 138 00:10:44,770 --> 00:10:46,630 So you sign your deal. We gave you your advance. 139 00:10:46,890 --> 00:10:50,390 At Uptown, that's the only money the artist has ever seen, that first 140 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:53,010 Andre had to wait. He never saw anything else. 141 00:10:53,250 --> 00:10:54,270 Did he pick that up? 142 00:10:55,270 --> 00:10:56,950 He made it even tighter. 143 00:10:59,730 --> 00:11:02,050 The shell game. 144 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:07,770 You hide everything that is an earning. You confuse the earnings. 145 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:09,490 And now I own everything. 146 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:12,730 You'll go out into the world. In the shell game, you'll be looking for your 147 00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:14,410 money for the next 20 years. 148 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:16,750 Sean did that to every artist. 149 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:19,290 You're in the studio. 150 00:11:19,650 --> 00:11:22,990 Now you have to recoup for being in the studio. 151 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:25,370 Pus owns the studio. 152 00:11:25,610 --> 00:11:28,470 And I have four sessions with you. You owe me $400 ,000. 153 00:11:30,010 --> 00:11:33,610 If Pus records a song with his artist, he pays himself. 154 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:38,300 If he's in your video, he pays himself. 155 00:11:38,980 --> 00:11:41,840 He inserted himself into their videos. 156 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,740 A video come on, you be like, I hate that guy. 157 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:47,120 As an artist, you can go number one. 158 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:49,680 Song is being played all over the nation. 159 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:54,220 But you don't have the money to go to it because you're not making the proper 160 00:11:54,220 --> 00:11:55,900 money off of your royalties. 161 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:03,080 Craig and I hit a point where we were fucked up. No money, nothing. 162 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Hell, I was . 163 00:12:04,650 --> 00:12:08,510 Getting money from my father to take care of the house. 164 00:12:10,610 --> 00:12:15,410 We were all at, like, somebody's album release party, and Craig's going to tell 165 00:12:15,410 --> 00:12:18,870 Puff to give him a few dollars, and he'll hit him back once he went and did 166 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:25,590 show. He literally went in his pocket and pulled out a knot of money this big 167 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:28,870 and gave him $100 bill. 168 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,120 You really just don't give a fuck. 169 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,020 I think Sean had an envy for his own artist. 170 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:45,440 He was jealous of their talent and wondering, like, this talent is wasted 171 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,700 people who don't even really know what to do. 172 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,400 And if I had that talent and my know -how, wow. 173 00:12:52,060 --> 00:12:55,180 That's interesting, because a lot of people Puffy's age want to... 174 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,900 grab this mic and rap. 175 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,900 But Puffy, you wanted to do other things, and you're doing a lot of them. 176 00:13:00,140 --> 00:13:02,220 Can you talk about his skills as a rapper? 177 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,660 Sucks. He has zero talent musically. He don't know how to skate. He don't know 178 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:08,240 nothing about R andB. He don't know none of that stuff. 179 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,740 He used to ask me to always be there in the sessions because I would tell the 180 00:13:12,740 --> 00:13:14,000 truth. I'd be like, that's not it. 181 00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:17,840 People would be there like, yeah, that was tight. That was tight. I'd be like, 182 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,140 look, yo, for real, you got a lot of people who just tell you anything. 183 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:22,500 That sucked. 184 00:13:23,020 --> 00:13:25,320 It doesn't sound good and it makes no sense. 185 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:29,620 But he always wanted to be an artist. 186 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:32,020 We're about to just drop our R andB stuff. 187 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,320 The Puff Daddy album. 188 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Yeah, what about the Puff Daddy solo project? 189 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:42,640 Yeah, we don't like to talk about that. Sean used other methods and 190 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,400 ways to get the way he had to go. 191 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,340 Big on strategy, big on swag. 192 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,040 All of those things became important. 193 00:13:51,790 --> 00:13:55,730 When the ball's down to the music, even if I didn't touch it, I showed you what 194 00:13:55,730 --> 00:13:56,489 to do. 195 00:13:56,490 --> 00:13:57,590 So that's what he was. 196 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:07,710 That whole bad boy was built on 197 00:14:07,710 --> 00:14:10,570 him. You cannot take that from him. 198 00:14:12,070 --> 00:14:14,950 But I think that puppy wanted the light like he always wanted. 199 00:14:16,210 --> 00:14:19,290 From dancing the whole night, you see anybody that's boasting and loud like 200 00:14:19,290 --> 00:14:20,290 that, they want to be in the spotlight. 201 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,920 It wasn't like no secret, that's what he wanted. 202 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:32,500 Six foot three, 335 pound, Suge Knight has managed to become the head of a 203 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:36,320 hundred million dollar record company. It's the record label at ground zero of 204 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,060 the whole gangster rap phenomenon, Death Row Records. 205 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:45,560 Suge was about that money, but he didn't want to be in that limelight like Puff. 206 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:47,920 He had his own lane. 207 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:51,140 You're a big guy, and there are people who are afraid of you. 208 00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:56,150 Probably people were afraid of you. Back in 1988, the person who did the 209 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:59,830 greatest job of protecting me was the head of my security at the time, Shaq 210 00:14:59,830 --> 00:15:03,350 Knight. Right now I'm on the Heartbreak Tour with Bobby Brown, a new addition. 211 00:15:04,410 --> 00:15:08,150 We were about to get on the tour bus, and these dudes came over, and they was 212 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:09,170 like talking crazy. 213 00:15:09,490 --> 00:15:11,990 Y 'all niggas this, y 'all niggas that, this, this, this. 214 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:19,810 And I seen Shaq kind of just turn this way and gave him one of these. 215 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,480 BAM! Like that. And knocked dude down the hill. And it looked like a cartoon. 216 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Dude was rolling down the hill. Boom, boom. His Timbs came off. 217 00:15:30,420 --> 00:15:35,700 He's a street dude. He's a real street dude. But Suge knew talent and he knew 218 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:40,620 business. They took me on tour and I learned how every person who's writing 219 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:43,260 songs is getting beat up their money. Like they published. 220 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:47,840 He was able to dovetail that into a death row record. 221 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:49,260 One, two. 222 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,720 Before Bad Boy, Death Row was the most successful label in the business. 223 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:15,980 Sean had admired Death Row and wanted us to emulate them. 224 00:16:18,270 --> 00:16:23,990 And that was my job. How do I make Bad Boy equal to success of Death Row? 225 00:16:24,490 --> 00:16:26,990 And, of course, my eyes were like, this, Death Row? 226 00:16:27,650 --> 00:16:28,850 They had a head start. 227 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:32,810 They had artists. They picked superstars up from other indie labels. We're 228 00:16:32,810 --> 00:16:33,810 starting off. 229 00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:35,590 Me and him were friends. 230 00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:38,870 Wow. Yeah, yeah. He would pick me up from the airport. 231 00:16:39,070 --> 00:16:42,690 You know, I was just networking with the brother and showed me a lot of love. 232 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:45,430 You know, I really had thought we were cool. 233 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,980 Me and Puffy, we used to run around with each other. 234 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,340 He was getting in the business, I was in the business. 235 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Only a few years later, Bad Boy, Death Row. 236 00:16:59,260 --> 00:17:01,700 The two hottest labels. 237 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:06,200 But I would look over at Death Row and say, they're taking care of their 238 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,200 better than we are. 239 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,160 They're putting your head, fuck the artists. 240 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:13,640 And my thing was opposite. It's about... 241 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:15,630 Me and my people, fuck you. 242 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:18,849 Craig wasn't happy there. 243 00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:25,569 Death Row was courting him because she was opening up a Death Row East, and it 244 00:17:25,569 --> 00:17:26,569 was found out. 245 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:28,230 Yes. 246 00:17:35,470 --> 00:17:38,350 It's the Source Hip -Hop Musical Award! 247 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:42,170 The Source Awards was happening in New York City. 248 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:52,890 And behind the scenes, people were running back and forth to the next 249 00:17:52,890 --> 00:17:57,010 room, to the next dressing room, which were in trailers parked outside of 250 00:17:57,010 --> 00:17:58,010 Madison Square Garden. 251 00:17:58,770 --> 00:18:01,330 How important is it to have the Source Awards? 252 00:18:01,630 --> 00:18:02,630 Let me just wait in front. 253 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:04,470 You got that? 254 00:18:04,590 --> 00:18:06,050 Come on, man. Who's banging on the door like that? 255 00:18:06,790 --> 00:18:10,710 When I was a dog, what is the deal, man? Keep the door closed. 256 00:18:11,070 --> 00:18:14,630 And it escalated with words from the podium at the awards show. 257 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:18,490 Any artist out there want to be an artist and want to stay a star? 258 00:18:19,050 --> 00:18:22,970 I don't want to have to worry about the executive producer trying to be all in 259 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:28,410 the videos, all on the record, dancing, color deaf rock. 260 00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:40,730 I'm the executive producer that a comment was made about a little bit 261 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:42,570 Check this out. 262 00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:46,450 Contrary to what other people may feel, I would like to say... 263 00:18:46,730 --> 00:18:50,790 that I'm very proud of Dr. Dre, of Death Row, and Suge Knight for their 264 00:18:50,790 --> 00:18:52,290 accomplishments. You know what I'm saying? 265 00:18:52,850 --> 00:18:57,730 I'm a positive black man, and I make music to bring us together, not to 266 00:18:57,730 --> 00:19:01,310 us, and all this East and West that needs to stop. So give it up for 267 00:19:01,310 --> 00:19:03,190 from the East and the West that won tonight. 268 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:05,170 One love. 269 00:19:05,690 --> 00:19:07,610 Sean wants to present strength. 270 00:19:08,110 --> 00:19:10,210 He wants to show coolness. 271 00:19:12,010 --> 00:19:15,290 And then there's a side of him that's all out dark. 272 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,340 He processes things differently. 273 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:22,420 He remembers every slight. 274 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Once again, y 'all, please give it up for all the nominees. 275 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Before I signed with Bad Boy, I was working. 276 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:48,560 at the door of the club in Platinum House. 277 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,880 Every Friday, we had a bad boy party. 278 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,740 So Puff was there. 279 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,340 Suge Knight came that night with his friend Jake, and I was working the door. 280 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:01,640 Suge was looking for Puff. 281 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:11,380 Sean would try to go after people's side chicks, like a girl in Atlanta 282 00:20:11,380 --> 00:20:13,080 that Suge was dealing with. 283 00:20:14,389 --> 00:20:21,170 Sean wanted me to take $50 ,000 out of the overhead account so he could 284 00:20:21,170 --> 00:20:26,850 buy her a diamond necklace, wooing her because she was shook side piece in 285 00:20:26,850 --> 00:20:28,250 Atlanta when he came there. 286 00:20:31,450 --> 00:20:35,910 Real police officer in a real police uniform came and got on the safe. 287 00:20:37,010 --> 00:20:40,370 I said, man, you test a homie, we're going to tear this motherfucker up. 288 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:42,650 He said, well, I got to throw him out. I said, for what? 289 00:20:43,150 --> 00:20:44,310 He said he was puppy. 290 00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:51,790 Suge and Jake is being escorted out the club by the off -duty 291 00:20:51,790 --> 00:20:54,610 officer we always had there moonlighting. 292 00:20:55,890 --> 00:20:58,590 Jake comes out, Suge come out, Puff come out. 293 00:20:59,210 --> 00:21:00,210 Everybody's outside. 294 00:21:00,710 --> 00:21:06,890 A man appeared with one hand behind his back, and he was holding a pistol. 295 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:11,050 He touched Jake with the pistol. 296 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,980 And he looked at Suge like this and was shooting Suge's friend like this. 297 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,880 He shot him five times. 298 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:29,520 Suge grabbed the hold to Puffy in the chokehold and put him in front of him 299 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,000 this. So he was moving Puff around like this. In case you shoot him, you're 300 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,480 going to shoot Puffy. You're not going to shoot me. 301 00:21:39,420 --> 00:21:40,620 Puff was like... 302 00:21:41,170 --> 00:21:43,190 It's going to be all right, man. It's going to be all right. 303 00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:46,390 Shook. He said, what you mean it's going to be all right? 304 00:21:47,030 --> 00:21:48,990 He said, tell your mama it's going to be all right. 305 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:51,950 Tell your kids it's going to be all right. 306 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:55,470 And then the shooter ran. 307 00:21:59,730 --> 00:22:01,950 Ambulance came and took Jake to the hospital. 308 00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:04,910 A couple of days later, he died. 309 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:09,710 That's what started the East Coast -West Coast War. 310 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,460 Tupac Shakur, out of the hospital after surgery from bullet wounds, is convicted 311 00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:21,560 on sex charges. 312 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:26,480 After pocket shot in Quad Studio, he had the rape case. 313 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:31,420 A New York jury convicted the rapper of first -degree sexual abuse but acquitted 314 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:32,720 him of more serious charges. 315 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:39,740 Since your period of incarceration at Clinton Correctional Facility, 316 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,980 Have you taken the time to reflect on your gangster thug image? 317 00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:48,640 Pac and Big were friends at one time. 318 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:56,080 But then once Pac was in jail, Bad Boy and all of his associations were 319 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,080 nemesis. 320 00:22:58,020 --> 00:23:01,720 While I'm in jail, strangers are telling me, yo, you don't know? 321 00:23:02,260 --> 00:23:03,640 Biggie Homeboy shot you. 322 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,820 Because they bragging. They telling they in jail. Yo, we just got Pac. 323 00:23:10,570 --> 00:23:17,390 Once the conflict happened, Pac needed someone strong that was going to stand 324 00:23:17,390 --> 00:23:18,390 with him. 325 00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:24,550 And it just so happened that Suge had his own issues with Puffy. 326 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:28,250 So Suge went to jail and visited him. 327 00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:32,530 The whole shit is like some mob shit. 328 00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:36,490 Into Tupac, a young cat. 329 00:23:37,710 --> 00:23:39,470 I'm going to join the family, dog. 330 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Get me out. 331 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:48,220 Suge Knight first signed Tupac to a recording contract when Tupac was in 332 00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:52,220 New York State prison, unable to come up with the million dollars needed for 333 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:57,300 bail, while his lawyers appealed a 1995 conviction for sexual assault. 334 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,380 I want everybody to give a big welcome to Tupac. 335 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,320 Out on bail, rapper Tupac Shakur's rushed -to -market double album All Eyes 336 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,340 Me debuts at number one on this week's Billboard chart. With the addition of 337 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:17,800 Tupac, there's no way y 'all can stop us now. You think this ain't bad, boy? 338 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,740 I say fuck them all! 339 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,540 We're coming to the East Coast to prove there is no fear. 340 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,160 Overthrow the government y 'all got right now, which is bad boy and all that 341 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,620 bullshit, and we will bring a new government here that will feed every 342 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:31,599 New York. 343 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,140 Cool, man. All right, man. Peace. Thanks a lot. 344 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Sean tried everything to get Biggie upset. 345 00:24:38,380 --> 00:24:42,440 He had to go at him with business. This guy came at us. 346 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,280 I was more in a mind frame of keep your mouth shut, big. 347 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,480 You know what I'm saying? 348 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,480 Don't feed into it. 349 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:55,300 If you feed into it, it's going to do nothing but escalate. You know what I'm 350 00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:58,620 saying? Biggie never wanted to be an enemy to Pac. 351 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:04,080 As things was coming from the West Coast, Biggie did not want to give any. 352 00:25:04,510 --> 00:25:05,530 Shots back. 353 00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:10,910 When Pop was producing All Eyes on Me, he called us and said, I just fucked 354 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:13,370 Faith Evans, Big's wife. 355 00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:15,750 We was like, what? 356 00:25:16,150 --> 00:25:18,690 First of all, fuck your bitch in the clique you claim. 357 00:25:19,030 --> 00:25:22,970 Westside, when we lie to me, quit the game. You claim to be a player, but I 358 00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:23,909 fucked your wife. 359 00:25:23,910 --> 00:25:25,770 But that's not true at all. 360 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:29,390 Big has sold my husband legally. I am having his baby. 361 00:25:29,850 --> 00:25:32,150 Sean kept putting pressure on Biggie. 362 00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:33,990 You got to answer back. 363 00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:37,090 Tupac had me pissed off, you know what I'm saying? 364 00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:43,790 And the rumors that spread on some tip, like, we set him up, you know what I'm 365 00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:44,790 saying? And that's crazy. 366 00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:48,090 The East Coast, West Coast thing was invented, period. 367 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:52,090 Because no matter what, we all went to the East. They came here, went to the 368 00:25:52,090 --> 00:25:55,910 West, whatever. They wasn't arguing with each other. We were able to roam. 369 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,680 Fuck Biggie, fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a motherfucking 370 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:02,640 It was just Bad Boy and Death Row. 371 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:10,160 That right there put people in danger because it made people be like, F you, F 372 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,760 you, and people started doing stuff for no reason because it was, you know, it's 373 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,240 just people that want to ride for each other. And then look what happened. 374 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,660 Doing the street thing. 375 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:25,300 My affiliation. 376 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,780 was with the Mansfield Hustlers. 377 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:35,440 Today, we go by Mansfield Gangster Crips now. 378 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,440 Police say the drugs and violence are being spread by two long -standing 379 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,500 in the Los Angeles youth gang scene. 380 00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:47,540 Groups who call themselves Crips and wear blue colors and Bloods who wear 381 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,440 Did you guys provide protection? 382 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:53,800 John Combs was a friend. 383 00:26:55,889 --> 00:26:57,570 Christopher Wallace was a friend. 384 00:26:58,950 --> 00:27:05,290 And, you know, when we're hanging out with our friends, we're going to protect 385 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:06,290 our friends. 386 00:27:06,530 --> 00:27:07,530 So they knew. 387 00:27:08,790 --> 00:27:10,410 And they were our associates. 388 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:13,730 You got beef with them, you got beef with me. 389 00:27:14,730 --> 00:27:18,350 Period. A number of reports have come out that Bad Boy Entertainment had 390 00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:21,310 actually hired Crips for security work out on the West Coast. Is that true? 391 00:27:23,090 --> 00:27:24,910 We've never hired. 392 00:27:25,950 --> 00:27:30,930 Crips or any other gang faction to do security for us would be extremely 393 00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:36,330 unintelligent to hire a gang, some gangs to do security for you. 394 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:39,670 A lot of the New York guys come out to L .A. 395 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:46,290 Zip is a person that I know that was Puffy's man. That was his guy. 396 00:27:47,950 --> 00:27:54,130 Eric finds Zip as the drug lord from Harlem, but Sean told me he was his 397 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,520 He might have known Janice on the fringe. 398 00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:59,280 He might have known Sean's father from those days. 399 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,740 Zip had a relationship with the Southside Crips, and then he also had a 400 00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:07,380 relationship with us. 401 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Sean said Zip can give us protection going back and forth to L .A. because he 402 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,820 was in with the Crips, and we had a beef with Suge Knight and the Blood. 403 00:28:19,390 --> 00:28:23,930 Night dresses in all red, the colors of the drug -dealing Bloods street gang. 404 00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:31,110 One of the death row people got jumped by someone at a mall. 405 00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:34,650 And that someone was from Southside Crips. 406 00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:38,290 One of the Crips tried to take a death row chain. 407 00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:42,390 I think that was an order from Bad Boy. That was an order from Puff. 408 00:28:43,050 --> 00:28:46,370 Because it was specific. We want a death row chain. 409 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,860 Introducing the one and only fire, Mike Tyson. 410 00:28:57,180 --> 00:28:59,240 Everybody got what they wanted that night. 411 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,840 People got to see Tyson knock a motherfucker out. 412 00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:09,480 And Tyson with a left hook and Selvin is down. It's over in the first round. 413 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:16,240 That's probably the reason it got us all fucked up and a lot of shit from fight 414 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,240 night. 415 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,780 Have you seen a Titan fight? 416 00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:20,340 You want to fight. 417 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:34,780 At the fight, the guy who was ripped off for the death row chain is with 418 00:29:34,780 --> 00:29:35,820 Suge and Pop. 419 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,500 He just whispers to Pop, that's him. 420 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,360 It was Orlando Anderson. 421 00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:49,770 from Southside Crip, who was connected with Pop. 422 00:29:54,290 --> 00:29:55,290 That was 423 00:29:55,290 --> 00:30:05,350 the 424 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:09,350 foundational moment when all this was getting out of control. 425 00:30:20,010 --> 00:30:23,210 Rapper Tupac Shakur was shot in the chest late Saturday. This morning shot 426 00:30:23,210 --> 00:30:27,470 multiple times in the chest in a drive -by. Death Row record label owner Marion 427 00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:30,690 Shug Knight was also in the car, but his injuries were minor. 428 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:33,670 Craig called me up. It was late. 429 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:40,050 He was out there at the fight because he was supposed to have performed at some 430 00:30:40,050 --> 00:30:42,550 club that Shug owns. 431 00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:45,870 And I guess Tupac was supposed to come through. 432 00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:47,310 He was like... 433 00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:49,650 How come Tupac just got shot? 434 00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:52,330 Craig was like scared. 435 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:53,870 Who was he scared of? 436 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:55,710 Probably Puff. 437 00:30:57,090 --> 00:31:00,530 He ended up not going to death row after that. 438 00:31:03,970 --> 00:31:08,290 Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren with MTV News. Controversial rapper and actor Tupac 439 00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:11,170 has died in a Las Vegas hospital of complications. 440 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:15,370 I was in jail. I was in jail when he got shot. 441 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,340 There was a lot of niggas in jail that was celebrating Pac's death. 442 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:26,200 I'm glad that I didn't kill anybody or anybody killed me. 443 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,180 But I damn sure came close. 444 00:31:31,020 --> 00:31:35,840 Police in Las Vegas say they have no motive for this latest shooting, but the 445 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,960 rapper's troubled past will certainly be part of the investigation. 446 00:31:41,420 --> 00:31:46,040 Do you know who was responsible for the killing of Tupac Shakur? No, I don't. 447 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,760 I think that Sean now, in my mature mind, had a lot to do with the death of 448 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,760 Tupac. 449 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:09,280 In 2006, I was recruited to work at Task Force that was going to look at a 450 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,280 cold case investigation. 451 00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:14,580 At the time, Tupac's murder was an unsolved case. 452 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Gang crimes oftentimes are difficult to solve because you don't get cooperating 453 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:26,240 witnesses. They want to stick to a code that typically entails not cooperating 454 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,540 with law enforcement and then taking matters into your own hands. 455 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,360 It ain't my job to snitch on nobody, because I would never snitch on nobody. 456 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,100 We had built a narcotics case against Kifidi. 457 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Kifidi was kind of the shot caller for the Southside Crips. 458 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,420 He was the most prominent drug dealer. 459 00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,060 He was very influential in his gang. 460 00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:53,580 His nephew, Orlando Anderson, was a very well -known violent gang member. 461 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:00,020 Tupac Shakur had assaulted Orlando Anderson just after the Mike Tyson 462 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:06,180 So PPD was potentially looking at a life sentence for federal drug trafficking. 463 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,060 We wanted to question him about his potential role in the murder of Tupac 464 00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:12,060 Shakur. 465 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:16,970 We let him know that he could potentially mitigate some of the damages 466 00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:21,810 wanted to come in and talk to us. And the U .S. attorney agreed that they'd 467 00:33:21,810 --> 00:33:24,210 allow Kifidi to do a proper session. 468 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:28,190 Kifidi, today what we're going to do, we're just going to go over with a fine 469 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:33,510 -tooth comb the Las Vegas incident. We do have to emphasize to you it's 470 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:37,390 determined that some of these details are incorrect and everything's off the 471 00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:43,060 table. A proper session is when a person facing criminal charges can answer 472 00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:48,340 questions wherein self -incriminating information would not be used against 473 00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:49,900 in a criminal prosecution. 474 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480 Doesn't mean they have any kind of immunity. 475 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:03,860 In the year prior 476 00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:10,670 to the murder of Tupac Shakur, He has had several conversations with Sean 477 00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:20,770 Sean Combs' 478 00:34:20,889 --> 00:34:26,670 affiliation with the Southside Crips came by way of a New York street figure 479 00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:27,670 known as Zip. 480 00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:32,770 Zip set up the introduction between Combs and Keefy D. 481 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,900 And then they developed their own relationship. 482 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,700 He had a little kid dancing on my car when he got back. It was fucked up. 483 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:09,580 He paid to get it repainted. 484 00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:19,400 He called his phone and he wanted to speak to me. They gave it to me. He took 485 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,400 to her. 486 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,360 He gave her some tickets and I brought the crew. 487 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:39,260 TPD says that Sean Combs kind of makes the general announcement while they're 488 00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:42,540 all inside a hotel room after a musical event. 489 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,580 Then there's a more specific incident that takes place at a deli on Sunset 490 00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:24,920 in Los Angeles, a place called Green Black Deli. 491 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,320 What made it a specific, like, hey, I'm serious, I want you guys to kill these 492 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,500 guys? 493 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,880 It would be a problem. 494 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,720 It was after he made the record. Hit him up, came out. 495 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,700 Yeah, yeah, that pissed him off. 496 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,720 Yeah, we wanted a million. 497 00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:13,100 He tells you seriously, man, I need to get rid of these guys. And he's looking 498 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,160 at you in the eyes and he's like scared. 499 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:16,420 Yeah. 500 00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:19,580 You tell him we'll do it for a million and he's like, okay. 501 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:25,930 I said 502 00:37:25,930 --> 00:37:40,270 that 503 00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:44,410 when Las Vegas happens and they're all out there and his nephew gets assaulted 504 00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:46,810 by Tupac, they're like, this is the perfect occasion. 505 00:37:49,450 --> 00:37:53,130 And my big gang said, he's a beat -up man. 506 00:37:53,650 --> 00:37:57,650 And he was in the hotel, you know, at the MGM at the restaurant. 507 00:37:57,990 --> 00:38:00,570 Two of the few New Yorkers, though, were with Zip. 508 00:38:01,690 --> 00:38:03,150 Like, man, y 'all need some help? 509 00:38:03,770 --> 00:38:04,890 We got this. 510 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,250 It's your perfect opportunity, baby. 511 00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:08,790 That was Zip talking? 512 00:38:08,830 --> 00:38:10,610 Yeah, yeah. Because of what happened with Zip. 513 00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:11,830 Yeah, yeah. 514 00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:16,650 We were in our old pistol down there, and he told me in the lobby that he had 515 00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:17,650 some jams. 516 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:31,130 The vehicle that Zip was driving that night reportedly had what we call a trap 517 00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:36,250 in it, which is a concealed compartment where you can place a gun. 518 00:38:36,850 --> 00:38:39,190 It's a difficult thing to find. 519 00:38:40,330 --> 00:38:43,110 Zip had driven that car to Las Vegas. 520 00:38:44,050 --> 00:38:50,920 A few days before Tupac was murdered, Sean requested that we rent cars 521 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:57,500 and have multiple drivers drive clear across the country 522 00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:58,780 to this fight. 523 00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:05,920 But I arranged through my budget to make that trip happen for those drivers. 524 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,460 And to this day, it stands out in my mind. 525 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,220 Why did we rent multiple cars? 526 00:39:12,460 --> 00:39:16,120 Why did we hire people from Harlem and other locations? 527 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:19,060 To drive. 528 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:57,380 On their way to the club, Suge is blaring his music too loud. 529 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,020 He gets pulled over by some police officers. They essentially, you know, 530 00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:04,960 just turn down your music, no big deal. 531 00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:10,680 And it's at this point in time that Suge and Tupac see these girls. 532 00:40:16,620 --> 00:40:19,120 The traffic was stopped, and then they got in the car. 533 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,820 Could you see who was with you? 534 00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:26,340 I thought it was Tupac. And then he was like, come on, come go with me. Come go 535 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:28,100 with us. We're going to 662. 536 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,440 I'm browsing. 537 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,240 Tupac! Tupac! 538 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,040 I was like, there you go. 539 00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:34,640 Just wanted to be there. 540 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,060 And we just pulled up on the side and checked every car to see where they was. 541 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,800 So what directed your attention to them? Was it some girl shouting at Tupac? 542 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,500 Tupac! He gave himself away. Otherwise, they would have got away. 543 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,580 If you knew who killed Tupac would you tell the police? 544 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:14,040 Absolutely not. 545 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:19,650 I went and parked the car and put the gun on the tire and left. 546 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:21,150 Where'd you guys go? 547 00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:22,710 We smoked weed and drank. 548 00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:24,110 Yeah, that's weird. 549 00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:29,930 I didn't know them. They pulled up in the ambulance while we were standing 550 00:41:29,930 --> 00:41:30,930 there. 551 00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:32,130 They got bullshit. 552 00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:34,030 You got to know the street what it was. 553 00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:37,550 We were on Las Vegas Boulevard at the crosswalk, and they pulled up in the 554 00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:38,830 ambulance right next to us. 555 00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:40,490 When did they park already? 556 00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:42,930 When Tupac and the children were in the car. 557 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:44,550 That's close. 558 00:41:44,570 --> 00:41:45,570 Did they see you? 559 00:41:58,470 --> 00:42:05,150 So you get back to LA the next day, Zip calls you and says, meet me at the hot 560 00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:06,150 wing place we're at. 561 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,730 You guys go over there, Zip shows up. You guys, what happens after? 562 00:42:12,490 --> 00:42:17,030 On Zip's phone or your phone? On Zip's phone. 563 00:42:17,570 --> 00:42:19,250 And Zip gives you the phone? 564 00:42:19,810 --> 00:42:20,810 Yeah. 565 00:42:21,070 --> 00:42:23,910 So we'll say, well, he's happy to live. 566 00:42:24,490 --> 00:42:27,150 And did you ask him to buy his money? When are you going to get paid or 567 00:42:27,150 --> 00:42:31,350 whatever? No, no, no, no. I don't have to say that on the phone. Zip will get 568 00:42:31,350 --> 00:42:32,350 our cash. 569 00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:34,290 Okay, so you tell Zip we need to get paid. 570 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,040 What does Zip say? I'm going to go back home and have a... According 571 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:45,480 to Keefe D., he was never compensated for the murder. 572 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,600 But he said that a partial amount of the money was intended to be forwarded to 573 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,560 him through Zip to the tune of about $500 ,000. 574 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,460 The million -dollar solicitation amount, only half of it was fulfilled because 575 00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:06,450 only Tupac... and not Shug was killed. 576 00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:12,010 Kiffy D has a conversation with Darius Rogers with DMACC. 577 00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:21,610 And DMACC says there had been a payment from Combs 578 00:43:21,610 --> 00:43:27,630 to Kiffy D, but it had gone through Zip, and then that money was never 579 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:28,630 forwarded. 580 00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:36,010 We're... just hoping and waiting to see what kind of progress Las Vegas would 581 00:43:36,010 --> 00:43:38,150 make with Kifidi's cooperation. 582 00:43:40,570 --> 00:43:41,950 Nothing really happens. 583 00:43:43,570 --> 00:43:46,930 Ultimately, Zip dies from cancer. 584 00:43:47,590 --> 00:43:51,670 Thank you for coming out to Zip's, and I want everybody to know that when you 585 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:53,370 come here, we want to keep the peace. 586 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:57,110 And Orlando Anderson is shot and killed in 1998. 587 00:43:58,190 --> 00:44:01,090 So it's really Kifidi and... 588 00:44:01,340 --> 00:44:03,100 And Puffy Combs are the last men standing. 589 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:06,520 They can be held accountable for Tupac Shakur's murder. 590 00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:15,080 I remember 99 we were working in the studio on a song called muscle game 591 00:45:21,810 --> 00:45:24,990 The song comes on and Puff was talking in the beginning. 592 00:45:30,970 --> 00:45:33,170 I'm like, what is he talking about? 593 00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:44,050 Everything that's done in the dark must come to light. 594 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:46,770 Everything that goes up must come down. 595 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:16,500 Yeah, we rolling. 596 00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:32,920 With the backdrop of East Coast, West Coast beef, Sean took Biggie to Los 597 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:38,880 Angeles to record what would be the finishing touches on Biggie's Life After 598 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,180 Death album, which wasn't titled that yet. 599 00:46:45,759 --> 00:46:49,820 Yo. Yo, baby, wake up. Wake up, baby. Diddy, what the fuck, man? What's up? 600 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,940 Come on, now. It's a quarter to six. We got the 7 .30 flight going to LAX. 601 00:46:54,260 --> 00:46:55,900 Oh, Cali? 602 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,280 No doubt, baby. 603 00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:01,020 We had been warned to not come to LA. 604 00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:05,920 There were warnings all along for the last few months that we are not the set 605 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,160 foot on the West Coast. 606 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,340 It was awards show season, and Sean wanted him to start promoting the album. 607 00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:27,350 Biggie did not want to go, but Sean talked him into doing all of those 608 00:47:29,850 --> 00:47:35,130 They were like catcalling and booing. 609 00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:45,230 We were not welcome. 610 00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:52,730 After the awards show, Saturday morning, Biggie and I were to go to London, and 611 00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:56,990 we were going to have a two-, three -day press junket to have Biggie be one of 612 00:47:56,990 --> 00:48:00,590 the first artists from Bad Boy to meet the European press. 613 00:48:01,550 --> 00:48:04,370 I had worked on that for months and weeks leading up. 614 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:08,150 We were supposed to go to the airport that morning. 615 00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:11,890 I'm calling Biggie like crazy, what's going on, wake up. 616 00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:16,090 He's like, yo, Paz is bugging. He just called me and told me. 617 00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:19,870 I want you to stay here in L .A. I don't want to stay. I want to go. 618 00:48:21,450 --> 00:48:23,550 But Sean was out of it. 619 00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:26,410 Cancel the flight. 620 00:48:27,050 --> 00:48:28,450 Biggie's not going to the U .K. 621 00:48:28,830 --> 00:48:31,030 What do you mean he's not going to? Click, he hangs up. 622 00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:33,390 This was his M .O. 623 00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:40,810 Ego, power, tripping, all of it because Sean wanted to do a party 624 00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:42,810 on enemy turf. 625 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:48,240 Scared to death. 626 00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:54,980 That's how real it is. I think somebody's trying to kill me. I'll be 627 00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:56,700 paranoid. I'll be really scared. 628 00:48:57,220 --> 00:48:58,480 I'll just be paralyzed. 629 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,940 That night, Big and Puffy was with us. 630 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,420 They were having a party. 631 00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:25,460 I spoke to Big, and I was like, yo, man, you know, what are you doing? 632 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,960 Catching L .A., man, they get down in these circumstances, man, and you just 633 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,820 can't be walking around here freely. 634 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,800 Everybody's mingling. 635 00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:49,940 I look around, I say, where's Big? 636 00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:55,370 Hold on, hold on. 637 00:50:28,610 --> 00:50:29,610 Sir, 638 00:50:29,870 --> 00:50:30,589 hold on. 639 00:50:30,590 --> 00:50:32,830 Listen, sir, I can't hear what you're saying. 640 00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:37,930 We're man shot in our car right now. Right now we're trying to run to the 641 00:50:37,930 --> 00:50:44,890 hospital. I know the way. You got to turn around, Jimmy. You're going 642 00:50:44,890 --> 00:50:47,170 the wrong way. What the fuck is wrong with y 'all, man? 643 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,660 I was following Big Lead on, like, you know, we're going to do this peace tour. 644 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,340 And, you know, it didn't work out. 645 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,300 Sean said it on Can't Stop, Won't Stop. 646 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,820 Biggie wanted to go. 647 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,220 He's lying about that. 648 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,420 Sean wanted that trip and was pushing it for weeks and weeks. 649 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,700 He lied about it and let me know. 650 00:51:26,350 --> 00:51:30,070 That's a weak spot for him, and he's nervous about that information. 651 00:51:33,650 --> 00:51:38,830 He ushered Biggie to his death. 652 00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:44,050 Who do you think killed Biggie? 653 00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:48,350 Next question. 654 00:51:50,670 --> 00:51:53,490 All it was is a puffy and shug night war. 655 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,220 You're messing with lives here, and that's exactly what happened. 656 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,540 Two lives were lost as a result of what? 657 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:02,700 Stupidity? 658 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,820 When I sat down with Valetta, we briefly brought up Sean Combs. It was clear to 659 00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:12,200 me that she had no real respect or appreciation for him. 660 00:52:12,740 --> 00:52:16,200 Sean clearly didn't do all that he could have done to help out in the 661 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,200 investigation. 662 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,480 In fact, he was a hindrance in the investigation. 663 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,200 Puffy was kind of stonewalling people from talking. 664 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:29,600 Because, you know, if you make inroads on Biggie's murder, you're going to make 665 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,120 inroads on Tupac's murder. 666 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,740 And that potentially can lead right back to him. 667 00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:40,220 How are Biggie's mom and Faith and the kids taking all this? 668 00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:44,080 Biggie's mom and Faith and the children are extremely strong. 669 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,360 They've been, matter of fact, they've been strong for me and helping to hold 670 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,620 up. Sean. 671 00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:55,510 assumed the position of his best friend in every article and publication, 672 00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:59,210 and that wasn't necessarily true. 673 00:52:59,530 --> 00:53:02,750 And I'm going to be there for them just like he would be there for them to make 674 00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:03,750 sure that they're all right. 675 00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:08,230 Sean said, we're going to do the biggest funeral for Biggie that New York has 676 00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:09,230 ever seen. 677 00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:15,110 And we start to put that together, he starts to see the price, and he says, 678 00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:18,670 we're going to do the biggest funeral, but Biggie's going to have to pay for 679 00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:19,670 this funeral. 680 00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:26,440 He was going to make the funeral be a recoupable charge to Biggie in death. 681 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,420 This is one of my closest friends, and it's still one of my closest friends. 682 00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:36,980 I just, I feel his loss. I just miss him so much. 683 00:53:38,540 --> 00:53:41,160 Sean doing a big show looks good on him. 684 00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:46,240 But he's not going to tell the world that Biggie was going to pay for it. 685 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,640 In Bed -Stuy Brooklyn, the whole hood was outside. 686 00:53:59,620 --> 00:54:01,420 If you could make it there, you was there. 687 00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:05,740 It was a big loss for the city. 688 00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:08,540 I loved Biggie. 689 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,060 Biggie inspired me. He gave me hope. He made us feel like you was from the town. 690 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,000 You could make it. We loved Biggie. So it was like losing a family member. 691 00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:21,140 I just wanted to be a rap superstar. 692 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,920 He didn't want to hurt nobody. 693 00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,580 He was probably one of the only people I had really trusted for a long time. 694 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,900 It's not a feeling that I really felt a lot like in my life. 695 00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:34,860 I don't really have a lot of friends. 696 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,500 I think people think I have a lot of friends, you know. 697 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,660 I don't think I really make a good friend. 698 00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:49,120 Before he was assassinated, Biggie had an opportunity to be on the cover of 699 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,120 Rolling Stone. 700 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,900 We were delivering the element so that can happen, and Sean called me and said, 701 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,300 pull that cover. I need to be on the cover. 702 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,400 My solo album is coming in July, No Way Out, and I need to amp that up. 703 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,780 He took the cover from Biggie. 704 00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:17,720 Another thing at the time, Biggie was negotiating his contract. 705 00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:19,320 Every day I wake up. 706 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,980 We acquiesced and gave him everything he wanted, and then he died. 707 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,540 Can't believe you ain't here. 708 00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:35,580 Sean wanted me to change the agreement to more favorable terms for bad boy, and 709 00:55:35,580 --> 00:55:37,220 his family and mother would not know. 710 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:43,760 And since he had signed the agreement, he wanted those changes to come from out 711 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,380 of the center of the agreement and have those pages replaced with the other 712 00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:49,400 terms. And I said, that's not right. 713 00:55:49,770 --> 00:55:50,770 I'm not doing it. 714 00:55:51,110 --> 00:55:52,830 90 days later, I'm fired. 715 00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:57,150 It's like I feel empty inside without you in my head. 716 00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:08,250 I remember Michael Jackson, the Motown 25 special. 717 00:56:08,530 --> 00:56:14,310 MTV, Madonna, Like a Virgin. And I remember Puff with Dave. Check it out. 718 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:26,840 Having a TV moment in music is very rare. It elevates you to such another 719 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,840 of superstar. 720 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,900 It made him rock star, bitch. 721 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:39,780 He became among us. But now it's him. 722 00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:41,980 Now I'm the man. 723 00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:47,660 It was like a dream come true to see the lines, like, in front of the stores, 724 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:51,770 like... People going there to get my record is crazy. 725 00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:55,630 It all happened pretty quickly for you from being an intern to being on the 726 00:56:55,630 --> 00:56:57,710 cover of the Rolling Stones. 727 00:56:58,370 --> 00:57:02,130 Thanks for Biggie's mother who's sitting right there for having Notorious B .I 728 00:57:02,130 --> 00:57:03,130 .G. 729 00:57:04,030 --> 00:57:07,090 You've abused everyone and used most everyone. 730 00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:15,750 There are horror stories like this all throughout. 731 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,940 of gun possession and bribery charges, Sean Puffy Combs walked out a free man. 732 00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:22,720 Some people speak up about it. 733 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,780 Most do not. The first member is Aubrey. 734 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,580 It's a pattern with him. 735 00:57:32,540 --> 00:57:36,180 Violence was a very normalized part of living in that world. 736 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,140 You're a bad boy now. 737 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:43,120 Allegations of sexual misconduct. Puffy called these encounters freak off. 738 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,320 Witnessed Diddy abusing Cassie and that they encouraged Cassie to get away from 739 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,320 him. 740 00:57:50,060 --> 00:57:53,340 Everything in life, you're going to have people that are bad and people that are 741 00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:54,340 good, you know. 742 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,060 You have to choose your side.